Our Agile Tales Podcast
I host the Our Agile Tales podcast with my colleague, Mun-Wai Chung. We interview a number of people that are changing the ways of working in areas like finance and HR, as well as in industries like healthcare, oil and gas, and the like.
The ten most recent episodes are below. They are available on major podcasting sites. You can click on the icons below to subscribe to your desired platform.
Our Agile Tales

Once upon a time, in an agile land, we navigate corporate levels and political waters to transform the business to be adaptable to this forever changing world. We are excited to share with you our agile journey. Enjoy our tales as we weave our stories together, sometimes with others, on our podcasts.
We are embarking on a transformative journey with Michael Hamman on Inner Agility: The Key to Business Agility on Our Agile Tales. Michael believes in the potential of the workplace as a catalyst for personal, professional, and social transformation. His work with many organizations, teams, and leaders has enabled them to embrace a greater holistic team and enterprise-level agility by nurturing their inner capacity for leadership agility in the face of the complexity, volatility, and uncertainty of the 21st-century world.
In this episode of 'Our Agile Tales,'Â Michael Hamman talks about the significance of inner agility as a key to business agility. Michael talks about the transformative journey he advocates through his work with organizations and his book, 'Evolve Agility: Growing an Agile Leadership Culture from the Inside Out.' The episode delves into the practice of 'deliberate sensemaking,' and how it contributes to a more adaptive and authentic workplace culture. Michael emphasizes the importance of leadership and systemic changes starting from the top-level executives, advocating for a culture where awareness and complexity in meaning-making lead to more effective actions in the face of uncertainty. Books and resources for further reading on transformative leadership are also discussed.
00:00 Introduction to Agile Tales
01:13 Understanding Inner Agility
02:10 The Role of Coaches and Guides
06:06 Leadership and Organizational Transformation
11:02 The Nonlinear Nature of Change
23:50 Books and Resources for listeners
24:58 Conclusion
Michael Hamman is the author of Evolvagility: Growing an Agile Leadership Culture from the Inside Out. The book provides a blueprint for what it means to be an agile leader in today's complex world and offers a practical roadmap for getting there. He is the head of development at Transformation Designs and is a Co-creator at the Centre for Inner Agility.
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