Our Agile Tales Podcast
I host the Our Agile Tales podcast with my colleague, Mun-Wai Chung. We interview a number of people that are changing the ways of working in areas like finance and HR, as well as in industries like healthcare, oil and gas, and the like.
The ten most recent episodes are below. They are available on major podcasting sites. You can click on the icons below to subscribe to your desired platform.
Our Agile Tales
Once upon a time, in an agile land, we navigate corporate levels and political waters to transform the business to be adaptable to this forever changing world. We are excited to share with you our agile journey. Enjoy our tales as we weave our stories together, sometimes with others, on our podcasts.
Welcome to our Agile Tales as we continue our conversations with Rich Sheridan, founder, CEO, and chief storyteller at Menlo Innovations.
Aside from founding and leading Menlo Innovations, Rich is also the author of the best-selling books Joy Inc. and Chief Joy Officer, which argue that joy is essential to productivity and profitability in the workplace. Rich recounts his journey from early programming success and a rapid rise to VP to feeling despondent amid chaotic, late, over-budget software delivery, which sparked a search for better ways to organize people.
The episode of Agile Tales continues a long-running conversation with Rich Sheridan. Rich discusses how Menlo’s pairing practices can include neurodivergent team members, noting they’ve employed people on the spectrum and that social skills develop through practice rather than isolation; he argues many “cantankerous” behaviors are created by silent, cubicle-based environments and should be addressed with structures for respectful conflict, drawing on Crucial Conversations and a kindergarten “solution circle” model, while still expecting basic human decency. He explains executive influence through visible signals, humility, and accepting feedback, then describes fostering autonomy via “run the experiment,” minimizing meetings, and using shorthand cultural phrases like “black butterflies” to challenge assumptions and reduce fear-driven resistance.
- 00:00 Welcome to Our Agile Tales
- 01:40 Neurodivergence and Pairing
- 04:45 Isolation Creates Friction
- 08:20 Solution Circle Skills
- 11:49 Respect and System Design
- 16:52 Leading by Signals
- 21:32 Run the Experiment
- 27:27 Black Butterflies Story
- 29:49 Closing and Next Episode
About Rich Sheridan
Rich Sheridan is the CEO and Chief Storyteller at Menlo Innovations and the best-selling author of Joy Inc. and Chief Joy Officer. He has spent years traveling across four continents and nearly 20 countries, helping organizations rethink not just how they work but also what it feels like to be part of them. His core message is simple: joy isn’t optional—it’s essential to productivity, profitability, and real team energy.
Rich’s ideas have been featured in Forbes, Inc., NPR, and Harvard Business Review. What sets him apart is that he’s been living these principles for over 20 years at Menlo, the company he co-founded in Ann Arbor, Michigan—now known worldwide for its uniquely joyful culture.
Follow Rich Sheridan at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/menloprez
You can check out Menlo Innovations' tours and workshops at: https://menloinnovations.com/tours-and-workshops
Music: https://www.purple-planet.com
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